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  Will they jump of the building?

  by John Aquila in

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  during the depression people committed suicide because everything they had invested in was gone overnight in an instant.

  many people are very fragile creatures.

  if by some freaking chance, (like enron, tiger woods, or the morning of august 1945 in hiroshima) the wts gets caught in a humongous scandal, say like links to human sex trafficking, (i can fantasize right) and the government steps in to investigate and finds them guilty and legally shuts them down permanently, will there be tons of suicides?

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  John Aquila

  I think with the instant communications network, we can help them.

  OnTheWayOut

  What a great thought!
  
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  How Do You Feel About All The Time You Wasted Being. A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

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  all that i can say is....what a shame!

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  John Aquila

  It's not the past that bothers me,

  its the future, or what's left of it.

  
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  Explanation Of New Bible Translation

  by Sofia Lose in

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  i have been a little troubled with the explanation on the new world translation given during sunday's meeting.

  the mag read that with less words the understanding would be more clear, and offered examples where certain texts had 27 words and now only have 19 words and the meaning is clearer.

  i am not okay with said explanation.

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  John Aquila

  The mag read that with less words the understanding would be more clear,

  Eventually the NWT will have 1 page that reads,

  FEAR the GOVERNING BODY

  Less words, more clear, right?
  
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  Will they jump of the building?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the depression people committed suicide because everything they had invested in was gone overnight in an instant.

  many people are very fragile creatures.

  if by some freaking chance, (like enron, tiger woods, or the morning of august 1945 in hiroshima) the wts gets caught in a humongous scandal, say like links to human sex trafficking, (i can fantasize right) and the government steps in to investigate and finds them guilty and legally shuts them down permanently, will there be tons of suicides?

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  Members committed suicide over 1914. Members committed suicide over 1975.

  I didn't know that, interesting!

  A pioneer sister in my hall about 30 years ago committed suicide. Before she killed herself she started losing it and mumbling in the Kingdom Hall, "1914 is not true, we are being tricked" She did this for about a month and disappeared.

  We thought she was having family problems because her Non-JW husband had left her. Eventually some of the sisters went to visit her and found her dead. She had been dead for weeks.

  Now after 30 years I believe she found out TTATT and had no support. It really is devastating when you find out you don't have the Truth.
  
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  Will they jump of the building?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the depression people committed suicide because everything they had invested in was gone overnight in an instant.

  many people are very fragile creatures.

  if by some freaking chance, (like enron, tiger woods, or the morning of august 1945 in hiroshima) the wts gets caught in a humongous scandal, say like links to human sex trafficking, (i can fantasize right) and the government steps in to investigate and finds them guilty and legally shuts them down permanently, will there be tons of suicides?

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  The WTs has been framed and structured to withstand its own self imposed let downs…. There are people (GB) whose sole task and responsibility is to make sure the organization sustains itself and that is done by creating more alluring bullshit

  That’s true and they just celebrated 100 years since 1914

  But sometimes sh** happens.

  The same people whose responsibility is to make sure the organization sustains itself by creating more alluring bullshit are the same people that are blowing the horn on themselves and getting people’s attention to how crazy and deceptive the WT really is.

  Other religious organizations that eventually admitted to its wrongful doctrines were different from the Watchtower in that none of them demanded the devotion and strict adherence that the WT demands of its members. For example these other religious organizations don’t demand their followers to go door to door, to refuse blood in a life and death situation, they don't disfellowship and force their members to shun their children and parents, they are not against Higher Education, and they are not adversarial with people concerning certain holidays and events like birthdays, and they don't demand their members to be no part of the world with regard to jw children and normal school activities. That is why these other religious organizations continue when they are caught red handed with false doctrines.

  Because it really doesn’t cost the members anything.

  But for Jehovah witnesses the cost is high. Many have lost loves ones because of the blood doctrine, many have wasted their entire life pioneering a false message. Some lost out on marriage or kids because they couldn’t find someone in the “Lord” to marry so they stayed single all their life with no family of their own. Many have had to live paycheck to paycheck because they followed faithfully the admonition to not pursue higher education. And worse, once a person becomes a JW, that person builds his/her social world around other JW members Only. So if that person ever leaves the organization that person becomes socially inept and has a difficult time learning how to function normally and building any type of strong social relationships.
  

  This is the difference between what causes a person to lose it or to just blow it off.
  
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  Will they jump of the building?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the depression people committed suicide because everything they had invested in was gone overnight in an instant.

  many people are very fragile creatures.

  if by some freaking chance, (like enron, tiger woods, or the morning of august 1945 in hiroshima) the wts gets caught in a humongous scandal, say like links to human sex trafficking, (i can fantasize right) and the government steps in to investigate and finds them guilty and legally shuts them down permanently, will there be tons of suicides?

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  I liken it to the Matrix and waking people up, some people just couldn't handle it if they are not prepared, even for us who were prepared, we often go through a great deal of psychological distress, imagine those that are no where near that

  I agree with you freemindfade, I was talking to and elder and his family and they told me if it wasn't the truth, they would all just prefer to die. Of course the teenage kids were freaking shocked.
  
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  Will they jump of the building?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the depression people committed suicide because everything they had invested in was gone overnight in an instant.

  many people are very fragile creatures.

  if by some freaking chance, (like enron, tiger woods, or the morning of august 1945 in hiroshima) the wts gets caught in a humongous scandal, say like links to human sex trafficking, (i can fantasize right) and the government steps in to investigate and finds them guilty and legally shuts them down permanently, will there be tons of suicides?

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  John Aquila

  During the depression people committed suicide because everything they had invested in was gone Overnight in an Instant. Many people are very fragile creatures.

  If by some freaking chance, (like Enron, Tiger Woods, or the morning of August 1945 in Hiroshima) the WTS gets caught in a humongous scandal, say like links to human sex trafficking, (I can fantasize right) and the government steps in to investigate and finds them guilty and legally shuts them down permanently, will there be tons of suicides? Or will the majority of JW members just go back to their former religions and get on with life.

  Learning TTATT slowly is hard enough, but leaning it like this would definitely be a mind blowing shock to all JWs around the world..
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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
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  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  I'm wondering whether the org is not really concerned about bringing in new ones anymore. Maybe it realizes that the preaching work is no longer productive and is concentrating its efforts internally.

  Magnum, I was thinking the same thing. There is no way any non-jw would be attracted to the Jw Broadcast. If anything, it would convince them to stay far away from the WT.

  If I was still in, I would be so embarrassed that these men were my spiritual leaders and I would never invite a Non JW to watch the broadcast.
  

  But I've noticed that it is a spiritual feast mostly for the older ones who have been in the organization for 50 years and up and have sacrificed a lot for the organization.
  
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  'Anointeds' Do you know any and if so what are they like ?

  by Introvert 2 in

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  would like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .

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  I've known several. The older one (about 70s) was arrogant, haughty, and condescending with everyone, he is dead now. The younger one (about 25, is easy to get along with, nice and recently married a hot Asian girl) So I guess it's just like anything else, some are crazy to the max and some are nice and easy to get alone type of people. The only difference is they want to go to heaven and rule.
  
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  What is the truth?

  by hardtobeme in

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  that is what my professor of philosophy asked us last night at class.. he said that pontius pilate asked jesus that question and that it was a hard one that jesus couldn't answer.. what do you think about this question?

  what is the truth?

  does the gb has any truth?

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  Does the GB has any truth?

  Awake! 1961 Feb 22 pp.5,7,8
  "But then it also speaks of a group of people preaching about the righteous kingdom of God, a war of God against all wickedness, followed by a paradise earth without death - all to be realized in the twentieth century. ...

  
  That now-operating kingdom in heaven will, within the twentieth century, cleanse the entire earth of wickedness. ...